This morning I received a call from a gent with a Boston accent. He indicated that he represents a firm that is displeased with some data I’m using on isnoop.net. According to the caller, my theater listings page is using his client’s intellectual property and I’m not properly licensed to do so. The lawyer seemed nice enough. Perhaps I should have kept him on the phone longer so he could tick up some more billable hours…
Like some other things I’ve developed, theater listings was a simple service I wrote for myself to clean up an otherwise cluttered interface and make the data available in my favorite feed reader. Over the years, many people have written with questions and thanks regarding the page. Thank you to everyone who used the service. I hope you might find some of my other tools just as useful.
As of now, the theater listings page is closed. If you still want this information in your web browser, check out Google’s movie listings service. For you feed reader junkies, Yahoo Pipes is widely known as a useful service for turning any web page into an RSS feed.
I’ll investigate the possibility of re-sourcing the data, but don’t get your hopes up. Also, for those who are already firing up their email clients to ask me for the source code, hold your horses. I’ve been working up a post on ethical screen scraping and now I can finally share it without being hypocritical. I won’t share the source, but look forward to an interesting and useful guide to capturing and reusing data on the web, including some advice that should help prevent you from getting your own C&D.
Famous Players in Canada goes out of their way to make sure that it’s as difficult as possible to find out when their movies are playing.
It’s odd, were I running a theatre I’d welcome the free advertising. As a theatre goes, I still use the same resources to find movies in my area that I did previously, if I’m looking for a specific movie and Famous Players doesn’t show up on the list then it’s not really a big deal, I just see the movie elsewhere.
Sorry to see the feed go down but I totally understand why. Your feed was one of the oldest feeds in my google reader account for my local area theaters. Thanks for having it up as long as you did.
Sorry to heard that the feed go down. Your feed was so useful that it has become one of my daily check item for my local area theaters. Thanks for your effort on this. I truly understand your concern. Again, thanks.
Google should ask you for the code. Sorry to see you call it curtains.
I do not understand how the “whats playing and starting times” can be considered intellectual property not in the public domain. Even if you were retrieving it from some site, that information content is already published all over in newspapers etc. I am curious, did the lawyer explain why his client feels it is their intellectual property?
I just noticed the post in my Google reader subscription.
If you do find another source, do post a new update to the feed, and on this post (though I assume it will just start working again). I won’t expect anything in the mean time.
Are you allowed to share the source anyway? Surely they can’t nag a million ‘little people’ haha. Oh well. Pipes should be useful too.
Cheers and thanks again for the 2.5 exceptional years it did work. :)
Using the Fetch Page module in Yahoo! Pipes:
“Can’t fetch pages that robots.txt disallow”
Grr! You can’t copyright facts, people!
Is there any chance you would share the code you used?
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Still you threw it all away
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Hasta la vista, baby Best…..
Scraping data -even in the open environment of the Internet is still wrong. We pay for our data (yeah, I know the site design sucks) but our showtimes are always right. http://www.richmondmovies.com –Sorry gang, I believe in open source, but not when it comes at legitamite business owners expense (not mine- but the company that we buy the data from; they go to a lot of trouble and expense to get it right, and it isn’t easy. It’s the industry, not the service providers. Theaters quite often don’t have their act together, and yet will pay to be in the newspaper(a dying media) but won’t support or pay sites like ours that drive more traffic to them than anything. Sucks, but that’s the way the movie trailer biz rolls.
Thanks for the post. i like
I was looking for an RSS feed to add to my website for local listings. I don’t get the intellectual property thing, unless it was a third party doing it for a fee. Seems that all theaters would want a feed with movie times. I would most likely go to that theater, because the movies and times were more easily available vs. a site that I had to log into, or look for the ‘find my theater’ page, then enter a zip code, etc…. Easier to look at feed reader. Oh, well…
Interesting, who knew such a simple source if information would be so complicated to post!
You folded in Canada with a phone call from an American?